![]() I'm now a senior designer and have been paying for their software out of pocket or have had my employers buy it for me for several years now. I started off pirating Photoshop in high school back at version 5.0 in the late 90s. ![]() That doesn't make pirating OK, but it's a fact. I've personally seen people that work for them say so. A lot of the production designers I've ever dealt with were pretty unskilled in Illustrator, but many of them likely aspire to become better.Īnd last of all, Adobe may not like to admit it anymore but they've known for a long time that a huge segment of their userbase pirates their software and that it is a major factor in their wide adoption in the professional sphere. There's at least one person like that in my office. How many people do you think there are out there with $2000 road bikes that suck at riding? Now go write a post for them too.Īlso, people may still be working in some sort of creative role where their company buys them a CC subscription, but they're not necessarily very good at design at all. Many people want to get into design but need to build up the skillset. If you aren't a student, Adobe CC is still cheap especially if you're an adult that has a job. Also many school and library computers have it installed for anyone to use. First year design students are terrible at everything. Illustrator is dirt cheap if you are a student, and if you are a student you may not even be paying for it yourself. Your post comes off as super condescending. If you can't afford those, then either a) you're running your business wrong, or b) you're a hobbyist/playing with the programs, which is fine, but don't expect access to professional-quality programs at hobbyist prices.įirst of all, please descend from your high horse. Or, if Photoshop is the program you want, it's only $9.99/month, and comes with Lightroom. If you don't need all the apps, pay for the one you want at $19/month. My subscription is paid for the month before my first hour of client work is even done. In the past three years, I've paid $1,548, plus a few bucks in tax, at a very affordable monthly cost. I also get updates to the newest version, with the newest features (and the bugs, on occasion) as soon as they're available. I also get access to a huge collection of fonts, many of which are top-tier, through Typekit. With Creative Cloud, I pay $50/month (though only $29/month for the first 12), for access to all the programs. And by the time those 5 years went by, I'd be 2, if not 3, major versions behind. If I paid just $50/month, it'd be over 5 years (67 months), and cost me over $3400 to pay it off. At $200/month, it'd take 14 months and cost me a total of 2632.34. I didn't have that cash up front, so I was going to either a) wait to raise/save it, which is hard to do when you don't have the programs to use to make any money, or b) put it on a credit card, and pay 11% interest on it. To get all those programs, I could pay $5-600 each, or buy the Master Collection and get them all (and a few more). Right before Creative Cloud was introduced, I was about to buy the Master Collection, because as someone running my own design studio, my work often includes using Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, Acrobat, Dreamweaver, AfterEffects, and Audition - on occasion, all of them for a single client. I take issue with the "shitty subscription services" statement. and your teachers don't have time for teaching you even the basics (it's pretty much how I started out 15 years ago) and we're happy to help, but please do a little bit of googling before you ask the most basic questions, ok? It is not as good as Illustrator, and never will be, but if you're just starting out, and in many cases you don't even know the difference between vector and raster graphics, why not give Inkscape a chance? There are tons of tutorials and beginners' guides, again not as good as Illustrator's, and I'm sure it would be a better option for many of you.ĮDIT: Yes, I know you sometimes get a school assignment and there are computers with Illustrator in the computer lab, etc. There are free and open source alternatives for you, for example Inkscape. So what the hell are you doing with Illustrator? Why did you buy it? Or rather, why did you pirate it? It is a very expensive drawing application meant for professionals in their field. It is not "meant" (and I mean this in the way that is explained further down) for people who just want to have fun and "do cool stuff" and such. Now, I'm not pointing fingers, but there sure are a lots of people here who have no idea what they're doing, which is fine, but Abode Illustrator is not a cheap application.
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